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The war for survival of the planet Lusitania will be fought in the hearts of a child named Gloriously Bright.On Lusitania, Ender found a world where humans and pequininos and the Hive Queen could all live together; where three very different intelligent species could find common ground at last. Or so he thought.Lusitania also harbors the descolada, a virus that kills all hThe war for survival of the planet Lusitania will be fought in the hearts of a child named Gloriously Bright.On Lusitania, Ender found a world where humans and pequininos and the Hive Queen could all live together; where three very different intelligent species could find common ground at last. Or so he thought.Lusitania also harbors the descolada, a virus that kills all humans it infects, but which the pequininos require in order to become adults. The Starways Congress so fears the effects of the descolada, should it escape from Lusitania, that they have ordered the destruction of the entire planet, and all who live there. The Fleet is on its way, and a second xenocide seems inevitable....

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Xenocide Reviews

  • Ezra
    2018-10-05 12:36

    This xkcd web comic makes for the best review of this book. http://xkcd.com/304/I didn't hate it. The philosophy and science annoyingly reminded me of Tom Clancy's later stuff where he rambles on and on over minutia no one but him and his 7 true fans really enjoy. The rest of us start skimming hoping to find something to make continuing to read worth it. Only to depressingly read the last sentence wondering why successful authors stop using editors.

  • blakeR
    2018-10-05 18:24

    TOO LONG. I grudgingly give this book a 3, based only on my affection for the characters and the creativity of the story. Most of the book suffers from overkill in one sense or another, which leads to its main problem of length. It´s impossible to deny that Card is brilliant, but I can think of no writers other than Tolstoy and Dickens (barely) that can justifiably write 600 or more pages of novel. Yes I'm aware I'm including Dostoyevsky in this statement (sorry Karamazov-lovers). Card could have brought this one in at under 500 and lost nothing while gaining much due to brevity.Problems (where to start?):Much of the length problem was due to tedious treatment of 3 of the main characters. Miro -- look, I get that he doesn´t like being paralyzed and that he´s wallowing in self-pity. You can cut at least 10 pages of his wallowing and I will still understand it. His transformation at the end will still be impactful. Si Wang-Mu -- the introduction of Path and the gradual revelation of OCD was masterful. What I needed much less of was the hammering home of their inner turmoil over the gods. There´s a specific 5 page passage starting on 430 that as far as I can tell is used solely for Wang-Mu to ponder the nature of godhood. If you´re going to spend 5 pages on her, at least use it to develop the mind-boggling and completely inexplicable split-second decision she makes at the end(view spoiler)[ to run off with New Peter (hide spoiler)]. Quara -- I did not swallow this character for one instant. Besides the ridiculous lapse in logic that she´s prepared to wipe out 2 species (including her own) so as not to kill 1 species, I´m supposed to believe that she´s defending Descolada just to get back at her family? And this is the first sign of mental instability that she´s shown in 30 years? Ender couldn´t have "healed" her in all that time (Is he a demi-god with supernatural powers of healing as shown in Speaker for the Dead or isn´t he?)? And then in all the arguments they had with her, no one could have raised the point that a dying Piggy raises at the very end:(view spoiler)[ even if Descolada is a sentient being, it is a murderous and tyrannous one, and we have the right to defend ourselves. (hide spoiler)]This woman is simply insane, and I do not believe that she would have been allowed to affect so much of the goings-on if Card were trying to be at all realistic. She was used to create conflict in an already uber-conflictive book, and guess what -- not necessary! That´s almost 30 pages saved right there. Did anyone else catch the part where she was passing Ela´s defense work to the virus itself? Mentioned but never follwed up on.My other objections are less grave. There´s the dialogue style, just as present in Speaker and to a lesser extent in Ender´s, where every character is constantly psychoanalyzing every other, and everything they say can be decoded to show a deep personal insight. Although it worked without overtly bothering me in the first two books it got to be too much in this one (perhaps due to the length). People don´t actually talk like this, or if they do I´ve never met them. It´s not natural and became intrusive to my reading experience. There was a bizarre narration sequence on page 100 where Card suddenly addresses the reader in the 2nd person -- jarring to say the least. Finally(view spoiler)[, there was the arrival of young Val and New Peter at the end, which I just thought was unnecessary. There was already PLENTY going on in this novel, why add more complication out of the blue? (hide spoiler)]This book was very frustrating to me, because there were so many really good things about it (mainly plot and the ethical/geo-political dilemmas), but some really bad ones as well.Not Bad Movie and Book [email protected]

  • Will M.
    2018-09-27 12:47

    The war for the survival of the planet Lusitania will be fought in the heart of a child named gloriously bright.Says the cover. Such a misleading thing to say. This novel was 500 pages of bullshit, and 91 pages of slight enjoyment. More or less 81.8% of useless shit. Nominated for the Hugo award? Thank heavens it didn't win.I loved Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, but Xenocide was just bullshit. It even felt like Card didn't write this. How could he create amazing characters, and manage to make them lifeless all of a sudden? I didn't feel any kind of connection with any of the characters in this third novel. To make things worse, this novel is way too long. 591 pages, rambling on about uninteresting stuff.The main goal of this novel I believe was to keep things interesting by introducing another possibility of a "xenocide", but all it did was introduce another set of alien species that are not even likeable. They were flat and unrelatable. I'm chinese, and I couldn't even relate to the characters. They were written that bad. I even had to check the front cover to see if Card wrote this alone. Unbelievable how much I hated this novel.The list of annoying things does not end. Card made the characters seem like they were trying to be like Ender a lot. Miro, Grego, and Wang-mu were all pretentious in this novel. They were trying too hard to be likeable, but they seemed like losers. Especially Wang-mu, and the twist that Card wrote in the near end about her was not even good. She was not a likeable character from the start, so relentlessly trying to make her likeable is not going to work. You might ask, who could be more annoying than Wang-mu? Qing-jao. Another pretentious little bitch. All her whining from the start annoyed me already. I got it the first time, you don't want the life that you were given, so stop whining about it every fucking time you appear in a chapter. Ender himself was fucking unbearable in this novel. I saw this coming already, but Card just made it worse."Ela, after you've inadvertently killed a couple of people with your bear hands, either you learn to control your temper or you lose your humanity." You killed people with your bear hands? You fucking killed an entire species, shouldn't that be the cause of your "losing of humanity"? Terrible example given, and I thought you were supposed to be the amazing speaker of the dead/murderer of the buggers. And up to now, I still can't believe that he married Novinha. She was fucking crazy right from the start. The plot itself ventured off a cliff. Instead of focusing on the main story, it focused on the art of whining instead. We get more of scrubbing grease off hands, Miro's paralysis, Ender's marriage, and Novinha's family problem rather than the fucking possibility of a Xenocide. Let me add the constant whining of everyone regarding Jane's "humanity". I don't give a rat's ass who created her, please talk about the fucking Xenocide instead. Based on the summary at the back, this should've been the best of the 3. Instead, I'm considering giving up on the whole series because of this being such a bullshit novel. Once I've calmed down though, I believe I'll be reading the next novel. 1.5/5 stars. I gave this 2 stars because I still have an ounce of mercy left in my system. Card could've done better, and he already proved that with the first two novels. I'm not sure what happened here, but I'm hoping the next novel wouldn't be this bad. This novel should be called "The Art of Whining" and not "Xenocide".

  • Courtney
    2018-09-27 13:28

    This may be my favorite of the Ender series. The dynamic with all of the different forms of alien life and the debate about when and whether it is OK to destroy such life is facsinating to me. I think that part of the reason I enjoy science fiction so much is that, not only does it force me to use my brain, but it can address real life issues in a setting that, although comparable to real life, does not have quite the same affect on my while still making me think about real principles. I am not sure if that makes sense...I am the type of reader that is deeply affected when I read about horrific things that happen in real life (ie murder, rape, war, violence etc). I can't shake the images and they truly disturb me and give me nightmares. However, science fiction can address the same themes like racism and violence and intolerance for diversity in a setting that is less realistic and therefore, for me more tolerable. That is exactly what this book does. It makes you think about the way you look at others and makes you question your judgements and even on a broader scale helps you to analyze how we a a nation look at other nations etc. A very facsinating read, but not for the faint of heart. It is a deep book that might lose some readers with its complicated plot lines. Once again the characters are fabulously developed and you are completely attached to them, especially to Ender.

  • Sarah
    2018-10-03 15:30

    Had this been a stand alone novel, rather than a continuation of the Ender Wiggins series, it probably wouldn’t have irritated me so much. In the interview with the author at the end of the CD, he pretty much verifies what I thought throughout the whole novel. The premises of this book is one that he had first thought of as an independent story line, but since Ender Wiggins was a ready made hit, rolled it into the trilogy instead. With each subsequent book, Card looses a bit more of the initial power of Ender Wiggins. His need to explore philosophical ideas, in far greater depth than is necessary, overwhelms the story. One of the greatest aspects of Ender’s Game was that it delved into a number of deeper issues, without being in your face or pushy. It managed to be a fast paced, action oriented science fiction novel, while at the same time offering enough substance to appeal to a more intellectual mindset. Xenocide completely missed the mark in this aspect. The philosophical debates are rammed down your throat, detracting from, and eventually completely ruining, the characters introduced in Ender’s Game. Had he simply written a separate novel that dealt with the issues addressed in this novel, I think I would have enjoyed it much more. As it is, though, the forcing of a separate story plot into the continuing saga of Ender Wiggins did not work.

  • Samantha Leigh
    2018-09-27 12:22

    Let me tell you the most beautiful story i know.a man was given a dog, which he loved very much.the dog went with him everywhere,but the man could not teach it to do anything useful...instead it regarded him with the same inscrutable expression."thats not a dog, its a wolf!" said the mans wife"he alone is faithful to me" said the manand his wife never discussed it with him again.one day, the man took his dog with him onto his private airplaneand as they flew over the winter mountainsthe engines failedand the airplane was torn to shreds among the trees.the man lay there, bleedinghis belly torn open by shards of sheared metal...but all he could think of was his faithful dogwas he alive? was he hurt?imagine his relief when the dog came padding upand regarded him with that same steady gaze.after an hour, the dog nosed the mans gaping abdomenand began to pull out the intestine, spleen and liver,gnawing on them,all the while studying the mans face."thank god" the man said."at least one of us will not starve."how can you NOT love that.the book was AMAZING.my second favorite in the series.

  • Stephanie
    2018-10-19 14:42

    This is one of the most profoundly philosophical science fiction books ever written.Humans have colonized the planet they call Lusitania, home to the "piggies," intelligent mammal-like animals with no technology. Then Ender Wiggin arrives, with the Hive Queen, the last remaining member of her high-tech species. Now three intelligent species must cohabit one world -- for if they leave it, they will take with them the ultimate biological weapon, the descolada virus.Human contact with not one but two intelligent alien species sets the scene for a thorough and balanced discussion of some of the most important questions about being human: What does it mean to be intelligent?What does it mean to be alive? Does free will exist?Where did the universe come from? How can we pursue our own interests while remaining respectful of others'?My only reservation about this book is that it really only makes sense having read the other two first, Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead. I tried reading it immediately after Ender's Game, and put it down in frustration after a few pages. But if you have time to read a great sci-fi trilogy, with interesting characters, a suspenseful plot, and some surprisingly unique ideas, you will be richly rewarded.Addendum: In light of Card's homophobic statements, I feel obligated to add a few words. It is incredibly disappointing to me that such an imaginative, creative writer as Card sees homosexuality as wrong. He is able to imagine species that reproduce in incredibly innovative and foreign ways, yet is not able to tolerate something as banal as one human loving another human who happens to be of the same sex. I admire Card's creativity, but I am saddened by his narrow-mindedness regarding his own species.

  • Stephen
    2018-10-11 15:50

    5.0 stars. I was amazed by how good this book is. Speaker for the Dead is one of my all time favorite books and this book picks up right where Speaker left off. Superb characters, amazingly orginal concepts of life and the universe and intense ethical debate (Card's strong suit) highlight this exceptional novel. Highly recommended. Nominee: Hugo Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1992)Nominee: Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1992)

  • Kaora
    2018-09-21 14:49

    I can't say that I enjoyed this as much as the other two.I found the characters bland. There wasn't one that I could connect with among them, other than Jane, and perhaps Valentine. The women were all ridiculously emotional, leading to foolish and irrational decisions that made me want to scream. (Quara, Gloriously Boring Bright, Novinha) The only redeeming factor was a "female" computer and Valentine, as the other women just opened their mouths and made more problems or spent the entire book talking about their unworthiness. Luckily they have men to fix everything right?Lets move to the synopsis, which states:The war for the survival of the planet Lusitania will be fought in the heart of a child named Gloriously Bright.I can't even say how irritating that statement is, since Gloriously Bright exacerbated the problem, and then spent the entire book being a stubborn fool, contributing nothing further. That statement alone dropped my rating by one star. I would have enjoyed this book more had she never had been in it. Wang-mu is the real hero, and should have been credited, or maybe it is because she is just a lowly servant.And don't get me started on how weird the relationship is between Ender and Valentine. They are so close they make their marriage partners jealous? What?The story isn't awful, although I feel like it could have been shorter than it was, featuring pages and pages of dialogue. While some of it was interesting, I did feel myself start to glaze over as it continued with no end in sight. I can see why people don't progress with the series past Ender's Game.Cross posted at Kaora's Corner.

  • Riku Sayuj
    2018-10-20 18:40

    Ender’s series has long been one of my favorite in the sci-fi genre and that is why I am slowly working through the series long after I have moved on from most of my childhood favorites. There was something about Ender’s world - even for a reader who was most at home with the most elaborate of high fantasy and sci-fi, the subdued world of Ender had a different sort of fascination. It did not try to sell a fancy world or any fancy technology or an advanced race of humans - none of the regular tropes. It was the most human of sci-fi stories in a way - only dealing with the fundamentals, with life and death alone and with how to deal with them. True it was set in a fascinating slot to tell this story but it asked nothing of the reader, no suspension of belief, no acceptance of an distinct world, it only asked the reader to connect with Ender.Then Uncle Orson had the brilliant idea to take this brilliant story line and merge with a rejected story from his early career and mix in all sort of mumbo-jumbo. He took the big leap that so many sci-fi authors love to take - straight into ancient hindu philosophy - which is a very tempting and logical end space for all of sci-fi. In fact, you will not find a more cogent and perfect sci-fi universe. But that is no excuse for so throughly mixing it up with a series that was going so perfectly.Worse, just when I promised myself that I will wrap up this series with this book, Orson throws at me the most absurdly taunting sort of conclusion and then has the nerve to come along with an afterword and tell me slyly that the best way to earn more from a book is to split it in two. So bingo, please read the next one and sorry to leave you hanging. And true to the spirit of Ender, I am pretty sure I will.

  • Jeremy Johnson
    2018-10-07 14:23

    How many stars do you give a book that starts off good, wanders around dully in the middle, and then becomes offensively horrible at the end? Do you average 5, 3, and 1 star? Do you give it 2 because of the overall picture? Do you give it 1 because it's doubly bad to start out promising and then mislead the reader?I'm in the last category.I'm 90% finished, and I think I'm not going to make it much further. I loved the first two books, but this one is sort of awful. It started out with a good mystery: who are the gods and how does this planet relate to the other, but that got resolved about 3/4 of the way through the book, somehow the struggles on Lusitania seem mostly tedious and obnoxious. All of this is fine though, all it did was impact my reading speed. Instead of chewing through the book, I read it at a casual pace. On the other hand, what happens at about 90% of the way through the book appeals only to people who have absolutely no grasp of science, or buy into that whole J.Z. Knight (the frustrated housewife who started channelling a 35000 opponent of atlantis and suddenly got rich) cult recruitment film: What the Bleep do we know?I love the first two and this one started out well, but it explodes in a gigantic ridiculous Deus ex Machina event that reinforces that Orson Scott Card knows little about science, and expects the same from you. Bleagh.P.S. Just so you know, I lost all will to read this book right at the end. So I never actually finished the book. I asked my buddy who had initially warned me about it what happened and I call that good. I can't bear to read any more.

  • Spider the Doof Warrior
    2018-09-28 12:50

    I keep taking away stars. I am cruel. The problem with this book is the use of stereotypes and isn't it sort of, I don't know, unsettling to people how monochromatic these worlds are? A world where everyone is Chinese or Japanese or Brazilian. Where would someone like me fit in? Just because you're in a world full of people like you ethnically or religiously doesn't mean you will fit in. This is sort of the same problem in Children of the Mind too, where you have whole worlds were most of the people are the same race and religion and they act as stereotypical as possible. Just because someone is Japanese doesn't mean they eat raw fish. OSC is not good at creating characters that are believable as PEOPLE and not just as some kind of stereotype of this ethnic group.More later. I must exorcise these books. Lucky for me someone wants them so I will mail them to her so I stop reading these books and getting angry. I have enough stress, thank you.Reading this again. OSC is so ABLELIST!Also, he can't write people without using so many dang STEREOTYPES. OMF Why would you torture a child this way? What is UP with this guy and tortured, tormented children? WTF would you believe in gods who want to torment you with OCD anyway? These gods are terrible! Why does he create so many warped and insane cultures? I know the world is warped, but when you are a writer, you can create the sort of world you want. And his worlds are extra dysfunctional. Look, a person can be disabled and still be brilliant! Being psychically disabled doesn't change that. It doesn't make you less you!So they went and converted some aliens, but how do you know the aliens don't have the One True Religion, eh?AUGH YOU ABLIST ASSHOLE! WHY WOULDN'T SOMEONE ACCEPT AS A MARRIAGE PARTNER A MAN WITH ARTIFICIAL EYES IF HE'S A GOOD GUY?!BLOODY HELL WHY AM I READING THIS?! it's so freaky, Ender and Valentine. UGH.Make me stop reading this but WHY are all of these worlds SEGREGATED??! NOT ONLY THAT BUT THEY ARE SEGREGATED BY STEREOTYPES!!! WHY IS HE SO FAMOUS AND POPULAR?Am I the only one bothered by all of this ableism in this book? It's really bothering me. How do you expect me to believe that it's THOUSANDS OF YEARS into the future and people are going to choose to live like this? To have bowing servants and be carried around on sedan chairs. This seems a bit... well... KIND OF RACIST! As if these folks on an all Chinese world can ONLY live like they're in some old school precommunist Chinese society. I'm surprised there's no foot binding. HOW COULD I HAVE THOUGHT THIS GUY WAS A GOOD WRITER?! And this whole concept of kow towing to congress. Why? You have to think critically about EVERYTHING!Goddess's TITS almost everyone in this book is a complete and total asshole.Still reading this book like an IDIOT. Goddess's TITS OSC, Having sex before marriage doesn't mean you're some immature person who would not stop a mob. It just doesn't. And that sort of attitude isn't healthy. What is up with religions that get their nipples in a twist over sex, but when it comes to real issues, they balk?You cannot science. stop trying.Fuck you osc. rape is not a reproductive strategy.WHY do I keep reading this book? Woman excepts my rule? Male and female social models? WTF?! OSC's world view is stupid and narrow. One aspect of Science Fiction is to long for a better world, not just a world where we follow the same tired conventions that are not really working. Atypical genes my left butt cheek. These simple stereotypes don't take human complexities into consideration at all. They don't understand that men and women VARY!

  • Kelly
    2018-10-16 16:39

    Wow. It took me so long to finish this book after racing through the previous portion of this series. It's really too bad because Orson Scott Card's ideas are definitely worth exploring -- some of the most thought provoking and original of the ones that I have read in my limited science fiction repertoire. Card is truly one of the most brilliant writers I have had the pleasure of reading.That said, certain portions of the book I just found to be tedious. I finally finished this only after borrowing the audio version from the library and listening to it during my commutes. Certain notes of the book were hit too many times: the constant bickering between the family on Lusitania (you know they'll eventually get their act together) and the sometimes seemingly endless discussions about the nature of philotic connections come to mind. I also find fault with the fact that it is obvious artificial intelligence and the brilliant scientists of Lusitania will solve the scientific issues faced in the book, making the buildup of suspense difficult. Nevertheless it's worth it to read the book. What Card does would be foolhardy for most writers, but for him it works. How many writers do you know that can write convincing dialogue and philosophy for the most intelligent people to populate a planet of geniuses? I can only imagine how truly amazing this book would have been if a bit shorter and more tightly constructed.

  • Josh Hopping
    2018-10-04 12:22

    Three months ago I was introduced to Orson Scott Card through his book “Ender’s Game.” Seeing how awesome his envisioning of modern technology (a lot of which have come true since the book was published) and study of human nature was, I eagerly jumped into the second book of the series, “Speaker for the Dead.”This book was even better!!True, it was not as action backed as “Ender’s Game” but nonetheless it was an amazing book that dove deep into the human behavior. How does one treat an alien race that is different than one’s own? How about a human who is reacting out of guilt and secrecy? Can you learn to understand someone, even when they are ‘evil’ and do bad things?It was with great joy that I picked up the third book in the series, “Xenocide” (especially since book two ended before everything was resolved).Sadly enough, I have to report that “Xenocide” failed to uphold the same standard as the first two… =(Well, kind of… the first three-fourth of the book was fairly good as Card tried hard to explore how one could live side-by-side with aliens, who by their very existence, places your life in danger. He also explores the nature of life and what it means to be alive.I grant you that these are not easy questions/topics to explore…so some grace must be given to Card for tackling such concepts. However I must say that Card ended up backing himself into a corner with tons of major problems for his characters that could not be solved easily…So instead of letting them die or having them fail, he jumps the shark and solves 95% of the problems with one action.[Spoiler Alert!]Normally I let an author get away with as there are times when something has to give…yet… when Card has his characters recreating their bodies, figuring out faster-than-light travel, bring 3,000 year old dead people to life, and developing new forms of a virus by simply wishing for it… sorry, I can’t go there… that is a tad much for me.True, he develops a huge ‘scientific’ theory/argument for such wishing…but no…can’t buy it. =?Sorry, Mr. Card, but you lost me.

  • Debbie
    2018-10-05 19:44

    Xenocide picks up Ender's story on Lusitania. With a starship on the way to destroy the planet, Ender and his family race to find a cure for the descolada, a virus integral to the life cycle of the pequeninos, but lethal to humans. Jane, a sentient being who came to life as a result of the bugger's attempt to contact Ender through the fantasy computer game, may die as a result of her efforts to help Ender stop the destruction of Lusitania. A faction of the pequeninos decides they want to bring the descolada virus to other planets and wipe out humanity.The third book in the Ender series would have been better with about 200 less pages. I loved the conversations between the Hive Queen and the pequeninos and Jane's developing character. The philosophical discussions of religious concerns had some interesting elements, but went on far too long for my taste. I felt like Card was trying a bit to hard to teach a lesson. And all the family fighting--ugh--that got old too. You'd think that the starship coming to destroy the planet would be a bit more of a uniting factor. I didn't like this one as much as Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, but there was enough worthwhile stuff here that I will finish reading the series.

  • Darth
    2018-09-20 19:24

    This was on it way to being a middle of the road - didnt love it or hate sci-fi novel, when a sermon broke out. I spent a number of hours getting preached at, and I didnt care for it.It didnt even feel like the well-intentioned if ham fisted style of RAH trying to dole out advice / his world view - it was literally a sermon.Jesus save the aliens, and in the end, just wishing (and a self-aware super-computer) can make miracles. It was a pretty bad excuse for fiction. And the ending resolved very little but tying down a superfluous oxbow in the story line.I cant help but wonder if the success of Ender's Game & Speaker for the Dead - which were both very good - gave this author so much clout that his editors no longer reigned him in. 80% of the characters in this novel are extras - some were interesting, but they really did not have much to do with the story moving along. It seems like this was missing some red ink at the editorial phase.But I bought it, and the next, and several dozen others by the same author, so here is to hoping that it picks up!

  • Hitandmiss
    2018-10-17 19:22

    Short off topic review - I often wonder when someone does something legendary did they know what they were doing was going to be epic, or did they just fluke it?After reading this, Enders game seems more of a fluke to me, then something OSC knew would be legendary. Even more so when you hear his vile homophobic remarks and his wild conspiracies about Obama. I don't know at what point OSC came to Jesus, but this level of Christianity in this book is overwhelming, and no real counter argument is ever made to it. Especially after the mocking tone EG had to religion. I figure he must of had a revival in his life. Now I dont mind Christianity being in books, I just wish it was questioned by the semi intelligent beings in the novel. Even more so when its the only religion being brought to a planet.I really wanted to love this series. The first books ending really meant a lot to me. (Not so much all the Mary sue'ing at the start) but the real first contact and the redemption.The 2nd book held my interest, and I enjoyed the meeting between the piggies and Ender, but the 3rd book? meh... way too preachy.This really needed a Editor to trim 100 pages of it, there is so much repetition of topics and convos that it gets dull re-hashing the same debates, "Is the virus a living being we could talk too?"

  • Jessica
    2018-10-17 14:26

    The short-version review for this book comes in the form of an image I’d like to plant in your head. Imagine yourself standing in a large, densely populated area. Think Grand Central Terminal, Times Square or the floor at Comic Con on a Saturday. You’re standing there, head tilted back, eyes squeezed shut, hands clenched into fists at your side as you scream out every ounce of anger, frustration, confusion, and disappointment that you’ve ever experienced in your lifetime, from the depths of your very soul.Now, imagine you’re releasing all those feelings through one epic scream as a reaction to this book.There’s your short-version review. You are welcome.For the longer version, let me just add that I’m pissed. I’m pissed at myself for reading this, pissed at Card for writing this, and pissed at the characters for being so frustratingly annoying.I read this book because I was told - by Card himself, in the introduction - that this book would be, at long last, the final chapter in the story of Ender Wiggin. Even though I doubted his words (there are still a gazillion books after this one, after all), I put my doubts aside, because he promised that when the door closed, it’d be with a finality that would allow the reader to move on, knowing that every last question had been answered; that new, thought-provoking and open-ended questions had been delivered; and that you, as the reader, would be at peace with it all.I call BS. This wasn’t an ending at all! It was an opening that led to another set of questions, another group of characters I could barely stand to read about, and another series of books that I just can’t bring myself to be interested in!This book was far too long, but I can usually deal with books that ramble. This book, though. It didn’t just ramble. It rambled on the theological, metaphysical, scientific and theoretic fronts. My eyes glazed over more than once. My brain wanted to shut down at almost every page. And just when I thought I couldn’t hate certain characters more than I already had (I’m looking at you, Novinha!), I got to the next chapter and realized, nope…it is possible to hate a fictional character with every ounce of my being.I realized pretty quickly that I just didn’t care. What I wanted was Ender. His story, his progression in life. What I got instead was a group of arrogant adults, each convinced they were right, each blissfully oblivious to the damage their small-mindedness was causing. Were there problems? Of course. Were they solved? Absolutely. Did they spawn yet more problems? What good series could survive if that weren’t the case? Did any of it matter, in the long run? Did any of it move me, the reader, to care more about the people, their issues, their thoughts or fears? Not one. Damn. Bit.So yes, I’m pissed. Shame on Card for writing that this could be read as the last book in Ender’s life. Shame on me for believing him, when all the evidence pointed at something else. And shame on these characters, for being too flawed to be believable, too smart to be humble and too near-sighted to care about anything other than their own worlds.And don’t even get me started on that ending…

  • Ashley
    2018-10-03 13:22

    "So let me tell you what I think about gods. I think a real god is not going to be so scared or angry that he tries to keep other people down . . . A real god doesn’t care about control. A real god already has control of everything that needs controlling. Real gods would want to teach you how to be just like them."The third part of the Ender Quartet, the sequel to Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, which takes place on the Brazilian colony of Lusitania -- the habitat of all three known species in the universe: humans, pequeninos, and the Hive Queen's buggers -- and a planet called Path, a descendant colony of China whose inhabitants believe themselves to be "godspoken." The plot is concerned with three main issues: the development of a cure and an understanding of the descolada virus, which is threatening to wipe out all life it comes into contact with, but which is necessary for pequenino survival, and the existence of which has led Starways Congress to condemn the planet to destruction; the growing conflicts between species on all planets and the ethical, spiritual, and philosophical dilemmas that result; and finally, the quest of three individuals on Path to find out what happened to the Lusitania fleet which was sent by Starways Congress to destroy Lusitania -- a "godspoken," his daughter, and her servant -- all who will be instrumental in the shape of things to come.I enjoyed this book. As always, Card manages to make you care about his characters at the same time as making you think in ways you never have before about religion, philosophy, and the nature of life. Reading one of his books is like a religious experience; I always walk away after finishing one feeling as if I've really accomplished something, like I'm a better person for having done it. For this reason alone all of his stories are 'A' quality, but this one misses the mark (as does it's sequel, Children of the Mind) in terms of narrative structure and control. More on this below. Overall, though, this book is well worth your time, if only for the education of your soul (and the tying up of a few plotlines from Speaker for the Dead).I love Jane -- so much. I also really enjoy all the ethical dilemmas that Card so brilliantly orchestrates. His creation of a planet full of people who believe themselves to have the ability to speak with the gods, but who have really been genetically manipulated into having a specific form of obsessive compulsive disorder, is frankly genius. But I think my favorite part about this book (and the rest of the Ender Quartet) is the way that they force you to examine the way that you see the world through the use of the pequeninos and the buggers. Everything looks different and a hell of a lot scarier when you don't understand it.The thing that makes Speaker for the Dead such an A+(++++++) book, a masterpiece really, is the way that Card interweaves character, plotting, pacing, and action. Speaker for the Dead is the perfect length, with things being revealed at just the right pace, and tension perfectly distributed. The result of this is a feeling of perfect completion upon finishing. The narrative is also almost all self-contained. With the exception of several unresolved problems (how they're going to stop the Lusitania fleet, what will happen to Miro, etc.) the conflict of the story is perfectly resolved. This is where Xenocide suffers. Xenocide and Children of the Mind were originally supposed to have been one book, but the narrative became too long and Card was forced to separate the two. Unfortunately this hurts both stories. Xenocide feels incomplete in terms of theme, and Children of the Mind feels almost trite in comparison to its behemoth of a brother. Ultimately, it would have been a much more successful story with a good paring down, and combining the two into one, as Card originally intended. And, to end on a whine, Ender's fate was pretty upsetting and I'm not sure what exactly about it bothers me, other than I felt cheated. Intellectually, the decision to give his soul to the Peter-body was a good one. He can now live out his life without the immense burden of guilt of having committed xenocide, which has haunted him since Ender's Game. While I know this is good, I still can't help but feel cheated in some way. But I digress. Oh, and also, I really hate Qing-Jao.

  • Duffy Pratt
    2018-09-25 19:32

    The fleet is coming to destroy planet Lusitania! The piggies may counter by releasing the Descolada virus to destroy all humanity! No matter what Ender decides, an intelligent life form may be annihilated! Holy ethical dilemma, Batman! Let's talk freshman philosophy.Speaker for the Dead was about what it is to be human. This one raises the stakes, and it's mostly about what it is to be a god. And here, Card basically goes a bit heavy handed on the Mormon theology. A true god would want to make people just like he is. In the end, we are all gods. And there's even a hint at the end of the idea that people can make it possible for their ancestors to enter the kingdom of heaven. I don't really object to this morphing of Mormon theology into sci-fi, but I did roll my eyes a couple of times.The philosophy that really bothered me in this book was an extensive discussion of free will/determinism. We are three thousand years into the future, and these are the smartest people who ever lived, and the discussion here basically falls into the simplest trap. Valentine says that the problem with determinism, if its true, is that it leads to a lack of responsibility. That totally misses the point. If it's true, determinism is useless. It only might lead to a lack of responsibility if its false and people believe in it and act on it. If it's true, people will simply do whatever has been determined.Even that wasn't my big issue with the book. One of the strengths of the first two books was Card's ability to get you to care some for the characters. Here, I had the feeling at times that he was working to achieve the opposite. There were times when I thought the best way to end the book would be to have the fleet receive it's orders and wipe these insufferable people out. That would still leave the insufferable people on Path, but one can't have everything, can one?Finally, Card thoroughly writes himself into a box in this book, and I had some curiosity as to how he was going to get himself out of the box. I didn't suspect that he was going to have a physicist "invent" a pair of ruby slippers for Ender, so that all Ender would have to do is wish very hard that "There's no place like home." With these slippers we get faster than light travel, the fountain of youth, and a Star Trek style replicator without the limitations. Pretty nifty device. It makes pretty much anything come true as long as the person using it wishes hard enough for it (holds its pattern in their mind). Too bad Card didn't actually have such a device, then he could have wished for something other than a deus ex machina machine.

  • Sharon The Cat
    2018-09-26 13:37

    I loved the plot, I just hate how much it was hijacked for hysterical women. Novinha is horrible to everyone about everything, and this book just served to highlight how every single bad thing in her life had to be turned into a huge thing that everyone in Milagre had to stop the world and pay attention to. Her marriage was her own personal exhibitionist self-torture porn. She did obvious and irreparable damage to her children, but she never felt like divorcing him for their sake. Not while she had her little thing on the side. Her jealousy was insane and intolerable, and the fact that we're supposed to take her ridiculous insecurities seriously is intolerable. Hitting Miro when she was called out on her bullshit was unforgivable. And yet, like all bad people, she has the good people in her life all twisted up, wondering what they did wrong. You didn't do anything wrong, guys. She's just a human cancer. If only she would fall off the world and die. Quara takes second place for making this book nearly unreadable. She's a histrionic hypocrite, and her insistence on her feelings being more important than her job is juvenile and shouldn't be tolerated at her age. She was treated way too leniently for her blatant treason, and then for withholding crucial information because nobody wanted to be around her. And the but about ow Ender was a bad and manipulative person was horseshit. I don't care if she says the opposite of what sh really thinks. She is a grown woman with a iob that literally thousands of lives depend on, and that trait is unacceptable. She should have spent this book in jail.Quing-jao has a terrible case of sixteen, and appears to be run by the colony of locusts in her brain, but at least we're not supposed to take her seriously as a heroic character.TL;DR, too many horrible women make this book nearly unreadable. It's about 45%plot, 15% awesome theory, and 40% terrible people being abusive to everyone they see because THEIR FEELINGS.

  • Stephen
    2018-10-18 18:27

    I was throughly enjoying enders story, until i got to this book. I was really into the story and the characters and all that but then i came to the end of this story. Spoiler alert: all of a sudden, its like the writer hit a wall and just thought, oh- i know, i will just make up this completely ridiculous outside place to literally create new characters for me so i can keep writing. And thats what he did. I know this book is fiction and set in the future but that is far too unbelievable for me, you need to keep a bit of reality in there, it literally ruined the whole story for me. As soon as they went to the outside place, the disabled boy thought his body back to new and it came true and ender thought about his brother, now dead for about 3000 years and his sister, who was an old lady waiting for him to get back from the outside place and the both of them in the prime of youth turned up. Absolutley ridiculous! Conveniently these are the main characters of his next book. As soon as i realised this wasn't some ridiculous dream ender was having i literally stopped reading the book near the end and haven't picked up another book to do with the enderverse. Thats a first for me with a book.

  • aPriL does feral sometimes
    2018-09-24 17:50

    I adore the Ender series. This is really part one of a two book set in the series. On to the Children of the Mind next which will finish what was started in Xenocide. There are a lot of ideas in the story as everything related to the psychology and philosophy of prejudice is explored in a dramatic speculative fiction setting. Religion and politics, as well as basic species survival imperatives come into play throughout the complete Ender series. Generally the book is very realistic and true to human nature, with the additional bonus of well imagined two other sentient species involved. I love it, including the undertone of the story of a Christ-like figure that Ender represents. That super smart people would be driving the story forward is a plus as well, but I find myself wishing that intelligence really was behind more politics than appears to be in this series.

  • Tudor Vlad
    2018-09-21 15:38

    When I first started this series I was afraid that the first book would be good and then the quality would slowly start to dip, because the goodreads rating did so and you have to trust user ratings, right? I was so wrong. Not only was Speaker for the Dead so much better than Ender's Game, but now, Xenocide is EVEN BETTER than Speaker for the Dead. The character of Han Qing-jao was probably the best thing in this book, and probably the best storyline this series had to offer (I reserve the right to change my mind once I start and finish Children of the Mind).“Mother. Father. Did I do it right?”

  • BJ Rose
    2018-10-14 12:37

    A weak 4* but deserves more than 3*. There were several disappointments in this book, but the main one is that so much of the book was spent on detailing the OCD actions of the 'godspoken', that the author decided to write a part 2 Children of the Mind rather than dealing now with resolving the problems of Jane's survival and the splintering of Ender's adopted family - in fact, those problems just kept getting bigger! And I'm not sure i'm optimistic enough to want to read the 4th book of what should have been a trilogy.

  • Aleksandar
    2018-10-11 12:44

    Great book. Lots of interesting ideas about how everything in the universe works and how it came to happen...

  • KatHooper
    2018-09-26 16:28

    Originally published at Fantasy Literature.Xenocide is the third book in Orson Scott Card’s award-winning ENDER WIGGEN saga. In the first book, Ender’s Game, the child Ender Wiggen was trained to wipe out the alien “buggers” who were planning to destroy the earth. The second novel, Speaker for the Dead, takes place years later when Ender visits the planet Lusitania where Xenologists are studying two non-human species: the pequininos, who have an unusual life cycle, and the descolada virus, which is fatal for humans but necessary to the pequininos. In addition, Ender has brought the buggers’ hive queen to Lusitania so she can rebuild her species. When the human Starways Congress finds out what’s happening on Lustinania, it sends its fleets to blow up the planet. Speaker for the Dead ends with Ender’s sister Valentine, who writes propaganda under the name Demosthenes, traveling to Lusitania to support her brother. Both Ender’s Game and Speaker for the Dead won both the Hugo and Nebula Awards. Ender’s Game is being made into a movie for release in spring 2013.As Xenocide opens, Valentine is arriving on Lusitania after traveling for many years to get there. So far, her propaganda hasn’t worked and the fleet is still on its way to destroy the planet. So Jane, a Neuromanceresque artificial intelligence who lives in the connected computers all over the universe, cuts off the fleet’s communications so they can’t get the final “destroy” command from Congress. When Congress can’t figure out what happened to its fleet, a young Chinese girl on the planet Path is asked to use her superior intellect to solve the mystery.Meanwhile, on Lusitania, Ender’s family is desperately trying to find a way to recode the descolada virus’s DNA so it will do what it needs to do for the pequininos without killing humans. If they can prove that it’s no longer harmful to humans — and get in contact with the fleet before it acts — they can stop the destruction of the planet. If they can’t, not only will the humans on Lusitania be killed, but two species, the pequininos and the buggers, will be completely wiped out. And make that three if you want to count the descolada as a species — the more they study it, the more they think it may be sentient. There’s a lot to get done before the fleet arrives…Like its predecessors, Xenocide is an intense, emotional, and thought-provoking novel. Most of the text doesn’t actually deal with the action that the plot implies (e.g., the nearing of the fleet, the tests on the virus’s DNA, etc.) but it mostly revolves around all of the ethical and psychological issues that arise, and there are a lot of them. I can’t tell you about some of the most interesting ones because it would give away plot twists, but in generalities I can say that Xenocide had me thinking about the genetics of obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), the relationship between compulsive behavior and religiosity, the nature of fatherhood, God, the big bang, the possibility of traveling faster than the speed of light, time-travel paradoxes, guilt and forgiveness, sentience, language, artificial intelligence, loyalty, and death.The subject matter in Xenocide is pretty heavy, but Card accompanies this with lots of psychological drama, too. Almost every conversation is emotionally intense. The characters are constantly challenging each other’s beliefs, psychoanalyzing each other, and attributing motives to each other. They often go back and forth — analyzing, interpreting, questioning, denying. I found this to be emotionally draining and it increased the page count beyond what I thought was necessary. In fact, Card explains in his author’s note that eventually Xenocide got too long and the story had to be continued in the next novel, Children of the Mind. From what I’ve heard (not having read it yet), Children of the Mind rehashes much of the plot of Xenocide. I would have preferred for most of the overwrought dialogue to be written out of Xenocide so the story could be told in one volume as originally planned.But that’s my only real complaint about Xenocide. I think some readers will find the ending too bizarre, but I’m feeling mostly generous toward the novel. Other than the overdose of drama, Xenocide is a well-crafted and thought-provoking story. It works beautifully with its award-winning predecessors and, though it’s more than 20 years old, its science and technology feel surprisingly current.

  • Anika Knudsen
    2018-10-13 15:33

    What if a whole new species was found living on a completely different planet? In the book Xenocide by Orson Scott Card, there is a planet called Lusitania that holds a human colony, but humans aren’t the only creatures that live on this planet. There is a native species, known as pequininos that thrive there as well. They are highly intelligent, and learn human languages very quickly. A virus that is fatal to the humans happens to be the virus that the pequininos need to survive. The numbers of humans that are living on the colony are barely avoiding death by this terrible disease, and when Starways Congress hears about the descolada, they decide to destroy all life on Lusitania to avoid letting the disease get free and wipe out all of humanity. The ships are on their way, and those on Lusitania have little time to plan a way off of the planet. I found this book very enjoyable. It is a sequel to the “Ender” series, and was written by a very well known author that has written many bestselling science fiction novels before writing this one. I liked this book because it shows the consequences of when a situation is judged without looking further into it. I also enjoyed it because it has several scientific theories that were very interesting to think about. For example, the scientists in the book believe that there is something even smaller than an atom. They call it a philote. To them, the entire universe consists of philotes. Some scientists even think that the philotes are what make up our individual will. This is one of the best and most interesting books I have ever read. It has many twists and different approaches that I would have never thought of before. This book is also an exciting page turner that I could not put down. Discovery after discovery kept me reading on, and new questions were constantly coming up, and by the end of the book, there were so many questions that I never even considered, much less came up with answers for. This book has given me ideas that I would have never thought of myself. It is different from most other books, and that is what makes it so interesting. This book I especially recommend to those who are into science fiction, but anyone that prefers simply fiction can enjoy this novel as well. This book can teach people problems that we find in our everyday lives, such as discrimination, violence, and even teamwork. This book is very thought provoking and can be viewed in so many different ways, that it is truly amazing. I absolutely loved this book, and I usually don’t reread books, but I would be glad to read this book again.

  • Rollie
    2018-10-10 17:48

    After thirty years, Valentine and her family arrived in Lusitania. But instead of expecting a happy reunion with her long-time-no-see brother, she gets a depressing reunion with a problem she once set aside. The Lusitania hasn’t yet resolved the problem of killing descolada. It’s still undecided if it’s a raman or a varelse.At the same time, the Lusitania fleet is coming and every species in Lusitania is preparing for it. A planet has dwelled by people who are genetically altered by Starways Congress. Among the problem rising, Ender should choose which he must resolve first regardless of the problem of imminent death of Jane.The concept of the last two books was different from each other. Thus it is not shocking to know that this book has a different shift of aspect from the previous books. Unfortunately, Card wasn’t able to make up or to elevate what the two previous books have achieved. Ender’s Game and Speaker for the Dead won the Nebula and Hugo Award. Though this book has been nominated, yet the fact that it hadn’t won the title shows how this book declined from readers’ interest.The story in Xenocide has been dominated by studies of DNA. If Card had just focused on DNA, this could have been better. But because this book is a sequel of a sci-fi book, the sci-fi-ty of the Ender’s Game and Speaker for the dead had been dragged into this book. And it caused complexity and complications into the stories. The science terms and theories that Card made up weren’t able to stand perfectly. Furthermore, it deepens into reasons that are hardly understandable. A perfect example of biopunk.When Card introduced Lusitania in his Speaker, he did somehow give a sense on why should they be introduced. But when Card did the same introduction in this book with People of Path, the world becomes complex and confusing. A complete failure. It’s also undeniable that his characters in the last books were likable but reading this one, Card made sure that some characters here are meant to be dislikable. The reader may burst into tears but mostly erupts into anger.The twist Card made at the near end was intended for the story to be more interesting. Unfortunately, it leaves the readers disgusted. I rate this book not through how I feel on this book but how this book evoked my loath and disgust.

  • Jacob
    2018-10-03 19:44

    September 2009Previously: Speaker for the DeadAlmost thirty years have passed since Ender first came to the planet Lusitania (although for his sister Valentine and his stepson Miro, thanks to relativity brought on by near-lightspeed travel, only a week has passed) and events are coming to a head. The descolada virus, fatal to humans but essential to the development of Lusitania's native life, is resisting all efforts to contain it--and the ships sent by Starways Congress to destroy the planet and prevent the descolada's spread are almost here. Jane, the intelligent computer program, does what she can to help, but at the threat of her own existence. The humans on Lusitania are growing restless, as are the pequininos. And Ender's family won't stop bickering.Xenocide starts out as a worthy sequel to Speaker for the Dead, but after several hundred pages of debates, arguments, discussions, fights, and inner monologues, the story starts to feel a bit stale. One wonder why it takes thirty years, with the ever-present threat of planetary destruction, for any progress (not to mention all of it, and in the space of mere weeks) to be made on the problems facing the Lusitanians--in fact, what was the point of shipping Miro off on a round-trip by starship again? What was everyone doing for the past three decades? And why the hell is Miro's family still fighting?Would've been four or five stars with an editor. After the extra 200+ pages, we're down to three.Next: Children of the Mind